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Steve K
Mon, Jun. 13th, 2005 09:34 pm
Marvels of technology

Oh, man.  I just saw/heard the funniest darn thing, I haven't laughed this hard in a long time!  It's probably stupid if you're not a fan of Stargate SG-1, but I was listening to the commentary on an episode called "Prodigy" in season 4 on DVD.  The writers and producers all start singing "the lyrics" to the orchestrated opening credits!  Hilarious, some of the writers said they came up with them when they first joined the show.  It was dumb, but very funny.

I would hereby like to do a plug for Netscape 8.  It's awesome!  It's got a lot of new features, like scrolling news and weather ("live content") built into the toolbar.  And it's got a lot of enhanced older features, like tabbed browsing and right-click options that IE doesn't have.  You can customize it out the wazoo, too.  However, the coolest part by far is the ability to now switch between Firefox and IE viewing!  Yes, indeedy.  For instance, I was looking at options in Yahoo Mail today and realized that I could only do HTML text in IE, not the older NS or Firefox.  I switched to "Display Like Internet Explorer" and bam!  It worked!  Now you can open just one window and have several tabs displayed in both IE and Firefox modes at the same time!  That is just too darn cool, I highly recommend it.
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Moldy bread.  Ick.

Current Mood: lonely lonely
Current Music: "Stargate SG-1" theme music


Tue, Jun. 14th, 2005 04:55 am (UTC)

I've wanted to get Stargate on DVD for a while (both series :-) but it looks like it'll be a while not only before I can afford them, but before I have time to watch! Hope to have time for the new eps as they start halfway through next month at least! But that song sounds great...I'd love to go back and listen to all the commentaries with the shows!

That's cool with Netscape...I haven't used them since I switched to Firefox and use it exclusively now...I'm even a minor Firefox evangelist :-) I switch lots of people at work (got another one just today!), and even got librarygal hooked finally, after she used my laptop with it for a while and liked tabs :-) And that's saying something, considering it took me until after we got engaged to get her to switch! That's a commentary on my persistence (not her stubbornness) (yeah, right! ;-)

I know there's a plugin for Firefox that will let you right-click and chosoe "View in IE," and another that adds the same to IE to view in Firefox, but they don't come standard...that's part of the lean, mean, browsing machine with add-your-own bells-and-whistles Firefox is shooting for though. Netscape is trying to be the big package...and doing reasonably well, especially with the same Gecko rendering core Firefox is blessed with!

Enough browser-ranting for now...good post!

Steve K
Tue, Jun. 14th, 2005 05:55 am (UTC)

Enough browser-ranting for now...good post!
Thanks, man. I am just about done with season 4, so you are welcome to borrow my DVD sets (Seasons 1-4) as long as I'm in town. The song is probably funnier if you don't know it's coming, but it really did make me laugh!

...I haven't used them since I switched to Firefox and use it exclusively now...
I wanted to stick it to Bill Gates, and still use the product he tried to destroy. Especially since it's still a good product! I read in Newsweek when Google's stock went public that there was speculation that Microsoft would try to get them "Netscaped" -- it has become a derogatory verb! So, I am glad to see they have survived and are doing even better stuff. And now it has the added bonus of displaying both Firefox and IE! Shweet...

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Tue, Jun. 14th, 2005 02:08 pm (UTC)
Re: Browser-ranting

Thanks, man. I am just about done with season 4, so you are welcome to borrow my DVD sets (Seasons 1-4) as long as I'm in town.
Thanks for the DVD offer, I might have to take you up on it but it does depend on time availability! We'll see :-)

...glad to see they have survived and are doing even better stuff. And now it has the added bonus of displaying both Firefox and IE!
That's really interesting about using both Firefox and IE inside...I hadn't heard that's what they were doing until now! Hope they find a nice big niche.

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Left in a basket on the steps of the FBI
Tue, Jun. 14th, 2005 04:56 am (UTC)

Meh. I've never been a fan of Netscape. I do think it's intriguing that they made it display like IE and Firefox (I'm a Firefox user myself). But is that legal, I wonder? Or copyright infringement?

(LOL the copyright lady for Purdue Libraries would say, "It depends," as that was her answer for everything.)

Steve K
Tue, Jun. 14th, 2005 05:50 am (UTC)

But is that legal, I wonder? Or copyright infringement?
Well, they have the following info displayed right on their product info page. I'm sure Microsoft would have noticed by now if something was up! Also, I think AOL bought out NS back when their stock was high, and they have a deal with Microsoft. Probably how that worked out, not sure.

Finally a Browser that Fits Every Site
• Netscape Browser 8 gives you access to the best of Internet Explorer, traditional Netscape and the new capabilities also offered by Firefox.
• Netscape Browser 8 offers the best of both worlds by combining the intuition of Firefox with the user-friendly capabilities of Internet Explorer.
• Now you can go anywhere on the web and access web sites with the adjustable secure system.

ReplyThread Parent
Wed, Jun. 15th, 2005 06:04 pm (UTC)

I believe Firefox is based on Open Source code, just like Netscape is. IE could still be an issue though.

You can read more about Netscape's decision to move to OpenSource here

(Such a librarian, I had to pop in)

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Wed, Jun. 15th, 2005 06:39 pm (UTC)

Firefox uses the same engine and essentially "came out of" Netscape originally, when Netscape released their code they created the Mozilla organization to oversee development of the open source apps, from the Mozilla Application Suite to the separate apps Firefox and Thunderbird, which use the same technologies but are different frontends on the same internal display (rendering) engine. Netscape continues to be maintained as a browser (they finally renamed the browser from Navigator, made by Netscape, to actually be named the Netscape browser, since everyone called it Netscape and not Navigator anyway) after they were bought out by AOL. Still uses the Gecko engine for rendering the pages though, inside their own (different than Firefox) GUI.

IE's rendering enigne is licensed by Microsoft to be included in other apps to display web pages, but using their own interface to control it. Technically, they released documentation for using the DLL's (Dynamic Linked Library) interface from external code...whether or not the details of the license they released it under covers usage in the manner Netscape is doing I don't know, I haven't read the license and don't particuarly have an interest in doing so. But many people have released IE-based browsers that do tabs and other such things. I happen to like the way Firefox does tabs, but I like everything else about it more than IE as well, from security to interface to Extensions capabilities, etc. :-) I would assume Netscape read the license carefully before doing whatever they're doing, which I haven't had the chance to try yet :-)

Enough ranting again ;-) And keep in mind I could be wrong about some things here, this is all from memory at the moment...

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